I would say that with my wife it's about 68% fear of losing family, 2% losing friends, and 30% she just wants there to be a "new system" as she was taught. She sure as hell doesn't want to go to heaven.
All in all, it's 100% emotional blackmail.
if we are going to create a pie chart with the following categories, what could be the main components-reasons and their respective percentages for just staying in the organization in spite of the doubts, discoveries about the jw doctrines/beliefs?
i doubt if the topmost reason is because of love of jehovah god and his son jesus christ.
your inputs dear friends and fellow brothers will be most appreciated.. a. below 40 years old.
I would say that with my wife it's about 68% fear of losing family, 2% losing friends, and 30% she just wants there to be a "new system" as she was taught. She sure as hell doesn't want to go to heaven.
All in all, it's 100% emotional blackmail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4.
naaaahh.
we're not a business.
All they need is to start selling some JW coffee and donuts... JWbucks is open for business!
Their Fire-and-Brimstone Dark Roast is delicious, and their Armageddon-Lemon Cake Pops will make you weep and gnash your teeth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4.
naaaahh.
we're not a business.
JGNAT - thanks for embedding the YouTube
BESTY - lol! Yes, I do believe that's what that little back room is for. Just enough chairs for a JC and the offending party. If you're going to get DF'd, it sounds a lot prettier in French.
88JM - thanks for the stills
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4.
naaaahh.
we're not a business.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVCVnHoHNo4
Naaaahh. . . we're not a business. . . We're THE TRUTH!
Slick bastards.
just ran upon this info:.
candace conti beats the watchtower society!submitted by teeny on august 27, 2012 - 9:22 pm .
http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/candace-conti-beats-the-watchtower-society/?fb_action_ids=348543075229733&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=246965925417366.
But you will hear that when Mr. Kendrick was removed as a ministerial servant, that's a significant event, it doesn't happen every day, that's a signal that something is wrong.
Yes, he could have done some hideously evil thing like send his kids to college.
i don't even know where to start.. more than anything, i'd like to say that i am not a woman of vengeance.
i am very much a forgiving person.
if you say "i'm sorry," and you're genuine, i can move on from it quickly and easily.
At this point in time, don't worry about payback or vengeance.
Worry about you!
Talking to a psychologist who specializes in abuse (because that what has happened to you) will help sort things out. Then you will be in a better position to help your kids, and you may even reasess the idea of vengeance (even though I KNOW it feels really good right now!)
Best,
BOC
lots of proper pioneering (90 hours), lots of calls, lots of studies, lots of interest.
enough to make it all interesting.
driving this buzz was the sense that armageddon was imminent.. my father was never a jw, and was very opposed.
I like your Moses/rats illustration. That's a good one!
As far as the no-man's-land effect, yeah, been there. The first question I asked myself when I realized it was a crock (also after the 2010 overlapping generations thing) was How do I know what I know? I just went from there. .. .
after lurking for 7 and half years (is that a record?!
) its time for me to say hello.. so who am i, and whats my story?.
im a born in jw, with all my siblings, mother, wife and children in.
Welcome WIZZSTICK!
this is the letter i wrote back in '96 about the parousia.
following the '95 watchtower that disconnected the "generation" from 1914 i began to look carefully at end-time prophecy and soon discovered what i knew were basic errors in what i had been taught.. i was a loyal jw at the time and was still serving as an elder.
i used only watchtower publications in my research.
What I see in that letter is a highly intelligent person trying to make sense out of complete nonsense.
Thanks for posting it COFTY
an 'apostate' inactive jw in america i know on facebook went to the dc and said fully 600 people left between the end of the apostate talk and the lunch break.
have any of you who also went to the dc seen something like this happen?
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There didn't happen to be a Starbucks nearby, did there?
That would better explain 600 JWs leaving the convention.